Zeemax deletion case

This page is meant to gather data on the case of the deletion of Zeemax (Pakistan)' profile. The aim is to figure out if the deletion was appropriate and, if it was not, do have some backing to a rehabilitation by the MDST.

TO MAYA AND ZEEMAX: You are both encouraged to add, reformulate and delete anything you feel relevant to. I will hack mercilessly into it if I feel it is done unfairly. Have no restraint, it is close to impossible to delete something in a wiki.

TO MODERATORS: If you edit, log in first. I will not revert your edits without checking with you first. But if you don't log in first, I will not see it is done by you.

Sitarane

Chronology of the enquiry

28/10/09 - Julien contacts Zeemax that sends him a long email. This email can be disclosed and will be, to anyone that asks. Some of it is quoted below.

08/11/09 - Creation of the wiki page. It was advertised publicly on the moderation subgroup of International Politics and privately to Zeemax and Maya.

08/11/09 - Julien gets an email from Maya, with permission to refer.

Chronology of the facts

• From Maya's email: Maya sends a private message to user Guleny that mention the name and phone number of Zeemax.

• Zeemax says in an email to Julien (Moderator) : Dec 2008, Zeemax does a MDST complaint about the publishing forwarding of personal details by Maya.

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Maya mentioned Zeemax's given name. I did not see anything else. I might have missed it, it's a long thread. Do point other mishaps to me.

Zeemax publishes his given and familly name a bit later in the same thread, along with email, phone number and physical address.

• Zeemax siaetJM: "right away" MDST reply that they gave Maya a warning and advise to "avoid getting into arguments with her"

• From Maya's email: Maya gets a message from MDST saying that she sent a personal message to someone that mentioned the name and phone number of a third member. We assume the "third member" to be Zeemax. Maya claims that the one she sent the message to was user Guleny. The emails from MDST mentions that Zeemax had sent his contact details to other people than her.

• Reconstructed: Maya probably sent a message to MDST at that point, which resulted in:

• Zeemax siaetJM: "soon afterwards" Zeemax gets a warning from MDST advising him "to refrain from either addressing or referring to Maya in any post"

• From Maya's email: Maya receives a mail from MDST saying that future reference to her person in Zeemax's post will be considered harassment. They suggest her to let them know if that happens. They also say that if she refers to him, whether in response to his posts or not, they will not help her. In that message, there is no mention that the penalty for refering to Maya is deletion of profile.

• From Maya's email: Maya receives the instruction of the MDST to send them a message if her name is mentioned by Zeemax again in the future.

• Zeemax siaetJM: Zeemax respects the advice all through the year. Mainly by falling out of sight.

• October 17th, 2009 - 8:56 am, Zeemax posts this, where he refers to Maya. He mentions a medieval death penalty in relation to her temporary ban from the group.

• From Maya's emails: Soon after that, Maya sends the MDST a message containing only a link, not to the post mentioning her, but to this post, that is a comment on the post mentioning her by another user.

• FMe: Maya receives a reply from MDST full of happy talk about how it is difficult to get along with each other but that we must all try our best, blah blah blah...

• Zeemax siaetJM: "the day after posting the reference to Maya" Zeemax' profile is deleted from CS.