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		<title>Guaka at 15:53, 28 October 2022</title>
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		<title>Lemoert at 20:50, 8 June 2020</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-08T20:50:31Z</updated>

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		<author><name>Lemoert</name></author>
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		<title>Lemoert: Created page with &quot;= Trustroots Meeting =  * Date: 2020-06-08 &#039;&#039;&#039;19:00&#039;&#039;&#039; UTC+2/CEST * Facilitator: Everyone, ish * Present: Carla, Changai, Michael, Dario, Martin, Gabriel  == Agenda ==  * hell...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;= Trustroots Meeting =  * Date: 2020-06-08 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;19:00&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; UTC+2/CEST * Facilitator: Everyone, ish * Present: Carla, Changai, Michael, Dario, Martin, Gabriel  == Agenda ==  * hell...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= Trustroots Meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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* Date: 2020-06-08 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;19:00&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; UTC+2/CEST&lt;br /&gt;
* Facilitator: Everyone, ish&lt;br /&gt;
* Present: Carla, Changai, Michael, Dario, Martin, Gabriel&lt;br /&gt;
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== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* hellos and checkin&lt;br /&gt;
* value priorities&lt;br /&gt;
** Dario thinks it better to wait until Noah is around, postponed for now.&lt;br /&gt;
* summary of renaming tribes videocall /Martin&lt;br /&gt;
** Summary of https://codi.kanthaus.online/s/renamingtribes#&lt;br /&gt;
** Three new name suggestions, mockup available both on pad and in Slack channel.&lt;br /&gt;
* sexual abuse case - Support issue transparancy&lt;br /&gt;
** summary: /dario&lt;br /&gt;
*** someone reported another member of sexual abuse, years ago, unrelated to TR&lt;br /&gt;
*** problems:&lt;br /&gt;
**** believing the victim and protecting them and the community vs wrongly excluding someone (much less likely, we think)&lt;br /&gt;
**** looking into the messages only with consent vs. not making the victim feel as if we wouldn&amp;#039;t believe them&lt;br /&gt;
** input / feedback:&lt;br /&gt;
*** simply &amp;quot;believing the victim&amp;quot; doesn&amp;#039;t scale – but whats the alternative?&lt;br /&gt;
*** suggestion to only act upon a police report&lt;br /&gt;
**** keep in mind that most sexual abuse cases are not reported to police out of fear /dario&lt;br /&gt;
*** vouching feature&lt;br /&gt;
* update from the mobile side of things /Michael&lt;br /&gt;
** we had a code introduction meeting yesterday&lt;br /&gt;
*** https://codi.kanthaus.online/trustroots-mobile?view&lt;br /&gt;
** smoothly going forward&lt;br /&gt;
** Android &amp;amp; iOS public betas approved&lt;br /&gt;
*** https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.trustroots.beta&lt;br /&gt;
*** https://testflight.apple.com/join/sCBEMC71&lt;br /&gt;
** Design is being worked on - happy for any input!&lt;br /&gt;
** Still confident to bring a viable beta to live in ~2 weeks :)&lt;br /&gt;
** can we add the app to our existing fdroid repo? /dario&lt;br /&gt;
* pick facilitator for next meeting&lt;br /&gt;
* random question&lt;br /&gt;
* integrate riot? integrate the matrix protocol without riot? /chagai&lt;br /&gt;
** proposal to simply set up a matrix instance on trustroots servers now&lt;br /&gt;
** later on:&lt;br /&gt;
*** integrate matrix protocol in trustroots, at first without federation&lt;br /&gt;
*** advantages:&lt;br /&gt;
**** instant messaging instead of waiting 15 mins for cronjob&lt;br /&gt;
**** include matrix&amp;#039;s messaging features like &amp;quot;liking a message&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;answering to specific messages&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** cons:&lt;br /&gt;
*** how to handle safety stuff then?&lt;br /&gt;
** action points:&lt;br /&gt;
*** bring it up again in a more tech-y meeting, also when Mikael is present who implemented messages&lt;br /&gt;
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== Action points and outcomes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next Date: June 15, 18:00 (presuming we&amp;#039;re alternating 18:00 and 19:00)&lt;br /&gt;
Next Facilitator: Martin? (Not all too trustworthy schedule, if somebody else can it&amp;#039;d be great..)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The value priorities discussion will be held at a future meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* Alternatives for new Tribes name available in Slack and the pad, discussions as to which one is best suited should be held once a good number of opinions are on the pad.&lt;br /&gt;
* Preparing workflows for difficult support cases and potential ways to block a member could be useful. (Is the blocking feature something we&amp;#039;re already working on? /Martin)&lt;br /&gt;
* It might be an idea to look into something similar to the CS vouching feature in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael is happy to get feedback on the mobile design. Beta likely live in about 2 weeks(!)&lt;br /&gt;
* Riot integration should be brought up again in a more tech-specific meeting, preferably with Mikael present as he implemented messages.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Lemoert</name></author>
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