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		<title>Guaka at 15:46, 28 October 2022</title>
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		<title>Nicksellen: Created page with &quot;= Trustroots Meeting =  Date: 2020-02-24 18:00 UTC+1 Facilitator: Mikael Participants: Nick, Noah, Mikael  = Agenda =  &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hackweek!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;Nick and Noah had a c...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;= Trustroots Meeting =  Date: 2020-02-24 18:00 UTC+1 Facilitator: Mikael Participants: Nick, Noah, Mikael  = Agenda =  &amp;lt;ul&amp;gt; &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Hackweek!&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ul&amp;gt; &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Nick and Noah had a c...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= Trustroots Meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: 2020-02-24 18:00 UTC+1 Facilitator: Mikael Participants: Nick, Noah, Mikael&lt;br /&gt;
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= Agenda =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Hackweek!&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Nick and Noah had a call about hackweek specifics&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Notes for hackweek: https://codi.kanthaus.online/hackweek?edit&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Need to go through invites and invite people :-) (Noah &amp;amp;amp; Nick)&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Invite them to Slack #collective channel — good place to ask questions; easiest way for Mikael to participate helping is via Slack &amp;amp;amp; random questions :-)&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Nick &amp;amp;amp; Noah to organise facilitator-skill workship/skill-sharing on first day(s) at the hackweek.&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Mikael to add his availability to do pairing-sessions or screensharing on the hackweek pad.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Tool to help online participants join the hackweek?&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;video/chat notes?&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Better ask beforehand if there’s interest, and figure out the format only then&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;To avoid technical hurdles/bad experience of live-video &amp;amp;amp; chat: if you know that there are decisions being made, post a topic for discussion beforehand somewhere and gather input async, before the live meeting. That way everyone can be heard.&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;discourse? (nicksellen)&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Abel said: “github feels too much technical and code-oriented for my taste. I am really missing Discourse for this sweat”&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;https://github.com/Trustroots/trustroots/issues/718#issuecomment-584822753&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;last time meta.trustroots.org was a bit of a mess, unmoderated, need a clear concept and active moderation&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;tech: it’s quite resource hungry, wants 2gb memory, 10/month on DO, or less on cheaper platforms (e.g. hetzner)&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;tech: other platforms less hungry (e.g. https://flarum.org/) but less mature with less community/plugins/etc&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;=&amp;amp;gt; Mikael to contact IndieHosters? =&amp;amp;gt; First define concept to avoid non-moderator state like with meta.trustroots.org =&amp;amp;gt; Hold off from technical implementation before modarator responsibilities and purpose are sorted out.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Mikael order stickers and send to Kanthouse&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Punted topics: would be good to bring some of those to async format since they might just be too wide topics for a call.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;lt;3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Punted topics for the next meeting: =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Mobile apps state&lt;br /&gt;
** Android; works&lt;br /&gt;
** iOS; can now be re-submitted, Mikael to own.&lt;br /&gt;
** Plans in future?&lt;br /&gt;
*** why wrap trustroots in an app and not just use a browser?&lt;br /&gt;
*** let’s make a react native app!is a lot of work though&lt;br /&gt;
**** offline support&lt;br /&gt;
**** Mariano mentions http://ioverlander.com/ as an app with offline support&lt;br /&gt;
**** Nick asked a person that might be able to help with it&lt;br /&gt;
* references, how to move forward? (v2) (nick)&lt;br /&gt;
* Trustroots Plattform invitation system: pros and cons (noah and dario)&lt;br /&gt;
** Mikael:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Two initial goals 1) more people joining, and bigger portion of those to be “better quality”.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Outcome: way less people joining, quality of experience lower, no way to measure actual member quality. Lots of time went to maintaining the feature instead of working on longer term features.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;
**** Take the feature down, (some code still in place so that we can use it to measure “campaigns”).&lt;br /&gt;
**** Concentrate on things that can be used to effect quality long term (e.g. refernces, sandboxing tribes)&lt;br /&gt;
**** and being able to measure “trust metric”.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Next meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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Next Date: 2020-02-09 18:00 UTC+1 Next Facilitator:&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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