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Cosmodiskan: /* Lodging and Camping */

2014-08-07T14:39:21Z

Lodging and Camping

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	Mather Campground - South Rim Village(inside the park):		Mather Campground - South Rim Village(inside the park):
	300+ sites		300+ sites.
	Open year round		Open year round.
	Tent and RV sites		Tent and RV sites.
	Pets OK but must be on leash		Pets are OK but must be kept on leash
	No campfires, ~~grills~~ are ~~provided~~.		No open campfires, but each campsite has a fire ring and attached grill. Wood will need to be brought in from outside the park or purchased at the general store. You are not allowed to collect anything to burn inside the park.
	Pay showers and Laundry.		Pay showers and Laundry.
	18$ a night.		18$ a night.

Cosmodiskan: /* Lodging and Camping */

2014-06-24T23:21:11Z

Lodging and Camping

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	18$ a night.		18$ a night.

	The General Store located near Mather Campground rents camping gear. More info is available at ~~[http://~~www.dncdestinations.com/Grand-Canynon~~.aspx]~~		The General Store located near Mather Campground rents camping gear. More info is available at www.dncdestinations.com/Grand-Canynon

	Desert View campground – Desert Vie(inside the park)		Desert View campground – Desert Vie(inside the park)

Cosmodiskan: /* Lodging and Camping */

2014-06-24T23:19:22Z

Lodging and Camping

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	Pay showers and Laundry.		Pay showers and Laundry.
	18$ a night.		18$ a night.

			The General Store located near Mather Campground rents camping gear. More info is available at [http://www.dncdestinations.com/Grand-Canynon.aspx]

	Desert View campground – Desert Vie(inside the park)		Desert View campground – Desert Vie(inside the park)
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	Open may through September 30th.		Open may through September 30th.
	Some sites are first come first served, others are available on recreation.gov or reserveamerica.com		Some sites are first come first served, others are available on recreation.gov or reserveamerica.com





	==The North Rim==		==The North Rim==

Cosmodiskan: /* Communications */

2014-05-07T18:26:05Z

Communications

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	DO NOT ASSUME THAT CALLING 911 WILL WORK:		DO NOT ASSUME THAT CALLING 911 WILL WORK:

	IF you have cell signal and IF your call connects ~~you could~~ be ~~connected to~~ dispatchers as far as Kanab (Southern Utah) or Flagstaff (Northern Arizona) depending on what cell tower your call connects through. E911 and location aware 911 services may not be available, so don’t expect the dispatcher to be able to find out where you are. The park is a big place, telling the dispatcher that “I’m lost at Grand Canyon” (1902 square miles) is about as useful as saying that you’re lost in the state of Rhode Island (1545 square miles)		IF you have cell signal and IF your call connects your call may be answered by dispatchers as far away as Kanab (Southern Utah) or Flagstaff (Northern Arizona) depending on what cell tower your call connects through. E911 and location aware 911 services may not be available, so don’t expect the dispatcher to be able to find out where you are. The park is a big place, telling the dispatcher that “I’m lost at Grand Canyon” (1902 square miles) is about as useful as saying that you’re lost in the state of Rhode Island (1545 square miles)

	'''Assume your cell phone WILL NOT WORK!'''. Ignore your carrier’s coverage map for the area (and for most of Northern Arizona). The maps have little to no connection to the real world usable cell signal.		'''Assume your cell phone WILL NOT WORK!'''. Ignore your carrier’s coverage map for the area (and for most of Northern Arizona). The maps have little to no connection to the real world usable cell signal.

Cosmodiskan at 18:10, 7 May 2014

2014-05-07T18:10:59Z

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	'''Payphones:'''		'''Payphones:'''

	~~The only payphones I know of~~ in the park are at Mather Campground. There are also plans to install courtesy phones throughout the park that provide free local calls, or allow long distance calls collect or with a calling card, ~~but I’m not sure what the~~ implementation ~~timeline is~~. There may still be a few in Tusayan (small town outside of South Rim Village.) There will be (Estimated late 2014) a payphone at the South Kaibab trailhead for hikers to call their rides.		Payphones in the park are located at Mather Campground and Market Plaza. There are also rumors of plans to install courtesy phones throughout the park that provide free local calls, or allow long distance calls collect or with a calling card, there are no firm plans or implementation timelines currently. There may still be a few payphones in Tusayan (the small town outside of South Rim Village.) There will be (Estimated late 2014) a payphone at the South Kaibab trailhead for hikers to call their rides.

	'''Satellite Phones:'''		'''Satellite Phones:'''

Cosmodiskan: /* Hiking */

2014-05-07T18:09:22Z

Hiking

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	'''Hiking below the rim:'''		'''Hiking below the rim:'''

	~~I’m going to go on~~ a safety rant. Please, take it into account when thinking about doing ANYTHING at the canyon, not just hiking in.		Below is a safety rant from a local. Please, take it into account when thinking about doing ANYTHING at the canyon, not just hiking in.

	I really, really, really, hate watching my friends and coworkers at the canyon make call after call to families that their child, brother, sister, parent or grandparent has broken a leg, fallen off a cliff, broken their back, become lost in the backcountry, suffered from heatstroke, or died. I also hate to see my friends come home after a day at work and break down crying because they spent their afternoon picking up what’s left of some poor tourist’s body after they fell off the rim. It’s not fun for us, and it sure as hell ruins your vacation.		I really, really, really, hate watching my friends and coworkers at the canyon make call after call to families that their child, brother, sister, parent or grandparent has broken a leg, fallen off a cliff, broken their back, become lost in the backcountry, suffered from heatstroke, or died. I also hate to see my friends come home after a day at work and break down crying because they spent their afternoon picking up what’s left of some poor tourist’s body after they fell off the rim. It’s not fun for us, and it sure as hell ruins your vacation.
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	Primary Backcountry page		Primary Backcountry page
	http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/backcountry.htm		http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/backcountry.htm



	== Lodging and Camping ==		== Lodging and Camping ==

Cosmodiskan: /* Food and Dining */

2014-05-07T18:08:11Z

Food and Dining

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	Expect food to be expensive (double normal costs) and not very good. There are a few places with good food, but no places with cheap food. Here are a couple of places that the locals actually eat at.		Expect food to be expensive (double normal costs) and not very good. There are a few places with good food, but no places with cheap food. Here are a couple of places that the locals actually eat at.

	*The El Tovar:		*The El Tovar: Very Expensive, but good. Breakfast lunch and dinner.
	Very Expensive, but good. Breakfast lunch and dinner.		*The Arizona Room: Casual, tasty, not much else to say. Lunch and dinner.
			*Bright Angel restaurant: Similar to Arizona room.
	*The Arizona Room:		*We Cook Pizza and Pasta: Good pizza and wings. Salad bar. West side of the road near the end of Tusayan when headed towards the park.
	Casual, tasty, not much else to say. Lunch and dinner.		*Plaza Bonita: Mexican in Tusayan. East side of the road. Not amazing, but good compared to what else is up here.
			*McDonalds: Tusayan, west side of road. No dollar menu. Super expensive for a McDonalds.
	*Bright Angel restaurant:		*Wendy’s: Tusayan, east side of street, across from the McDonalds.
	Similar to Arizona room.

	*We Cook Pizza and Pasta:
	Good pizza and wings. Salad bar. West side of the road near the end of Tusayan when headed towards the park.

	*Plaza Bonita: Mexican
	in Tusayan. East side of the road. Not amazing, but good compared to what else is up here.

	*McDonalds:
	Tusayan, west side of road. No dollar menu. Super expensive for a McDonalds.

	*Wendy’s:
	Tusayan, east side of street, across from the McDonalds.

	A more complete, listing of food options is available at http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/wheretoeat.htm		A more complete, listing of food options is available at http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/wheretoeat.htm



	== Hiking ==		== Hiking ==

Cosmodiskan: /* Communications */

2014-05-07T18:00:37Z

Communications

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	IF you have cell signal and IF your call connects you could be connected to dispatchers as far as Kanab (Southern Utah) or Flagstaff (Northern Arizona) depending on what cell tower your call connects through. E911 and location aware 911 services may not be available, so don’t expect the dispatcher to be able to find out where you are. The park is a big place, telling the dispatcher that “I’m lost at Grand Canyon” (1902 square miles) is about as useful as saying that you’re lost in the state of Rhode Island (1545 square miles)		IF you have cell signal and IF your call connects you could be connected to dispatchers as far as Kanab (Southern Utah) or Flagstaff (Northern Arizona) depending on what cell tower your call connects through. E911 and location aware 911 services may not be available, so don’t expect the dispatcher to be able to find out where you are. The park is a big place, telling the dispatcher that “I’m lost at Grand Canyon” (1902 square miles) is about as useful as saying that you’re lost in the state of Rhode Island (1545 square miles)

	Assume your cell phone ~~will not work~~. Ignore your carrier’s coverage map for the area (and for most of Northern Arizona). The maps have little to no connection to the real world usable cell signal.		'''Assume your cell phone WILL NOT WORK!'''. Ignore your carrier’s coverage map for the area (and for most of Northern Arizona). The maps have little to no connection to the real world usable cell signal.

	*Below the rim: No cell carrier works in the canyon/below the rim. You might get a spot here or there where you have service, but assume that your cell phone will be nothing but a brick once you start hiking.		*Below the rim: No cell carrier works in the canyon/below the rim. You might get a spot here or there where you have service, but assume that your cell phone will be nothing but a brick once you start hiking.

Cosmodiskan: /* Travel/Getting to the park */

2014-05-07T17:46:22Z

Travel/Getting to the park

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	'''Ways to get to the park (South Rim):'''		'''Ways to get to the park (South Rim):'''

	*Personal vehicle: Entry fee to the park is 25$ per car, or 12$ per person on a motorcycles, bicycles, or on foot.		*Personal vehicle: Entry fee to the park is 25$ per car, or 12$ per person on a motorcycles, bicycles, or on foot. Passes are also available for purchase if you plan to visit other National Parks. More information is available at http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/entrance-fees.htm .

	Routes		Routes

Cosmodiskan: /* Communications */

2014-05-07T17:43:57Z

Communications

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	'''Payphones:'''		'''Payphones:'''

	The only payphones I know of in the park are at Mather Campground. There are also plans to install courtesy phones throughout the park that provide free local calls, or allow long distance calls collect or with a calling card, but I’m not sure what the implementation timeline is. There may still be a few in Tusayan (small town outside of South Rim Village.)		The only payphones I know of in the park are at Mather Campground. There are also plans to install courtesy phones throughout the park that provide free local calls, or allow long distance calls collect or with a calling card, but I’m not sure what the implementation timeline is. There may still be a few in Tusayan (small town outside of South Rim Village.) There will be (Estimated late 2014) a payphone at the South Kaibab trailhead for hikers to call their rides.

	'''Satellite Phones:'''		'''Satellite Phones:'''
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	'''Emergency locator beacons:'''		'''Emergency locator beacons:'''
	SPOT or other emergency beacons don’t work everywhere in the canyon, but they can be a lifesaver. If you’re going into the backcountry I recommend taking one along.		SPOT or other emergency beacons don’t work everywhere in the canyon, but they can be a lifesaver. If you’re going into the backcountry I recommend taking one along.


	==Food and Dining==		==Food and Dining==