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== Chronology of the facts == I put the source in the beginning of each line. Keep the source in mind while reading a line. I have no information from MDST at all and will never have. MDST just doesn't talk. BACKGROUND: In the thread [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=528&post=2029336 What is terrorism], Maya and Zeemax get involved in a personal fight. * From the thread: [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=528&post=2029336 Maya calls Zeemax by his given name], that is not apparent on his profile and that he claims he wants to stay confidential. She also states the quality of his occupation in a very vague way. :Maya knew the name through previous email exchange with Zeemax, and claims to have seachengined his occupation. * From the thread: User Guleny, that was active in the thread without taking sides in the clash, expresses her disagreement with the disclosing of personal details as a mean of discredit. * From the thread: Maya says to Guleny that she will send her a private message to clarify. * From Maya's email: Maya sends a private message to user Guleny that mention the name and phone number of Zeemax, as part of the copy paste of a long email exchange between Maya and Zeemax two month before (september). :I suppose that Maya had the intention to show that her and Zeemax used to be in good terms. Gulen had been neutral in the thread, but so had a lot of others. * From the Thread: Guleny acknowledges publicly the receipt of the mails and expresses her opposition to it. * From the thread: Zeemax publishes his given and family name, along with email, phone number and physical address. "to make it known that her underhand tactics in attacking my person won't defeat me" * Zeemax says in an email to Julien (Moderator) : Dec 2008, Zeemax does a MDST complaint about the publishing and forwarding of personal details by Maya. * Zeemax siaetJM: MDST reply on 17 Dec 2008 that they "have issued a very serious warning to the member in question." * Zeemax thanks them and receives another response on 19 Dec 2008 saying "Indeed, your personal information may not be revealed on the CS except with your explicit consent. Thank you also for refraining from further contact with Maya." * From Maya's email: Maya gets a formal message from MDST telling her off for sharing member information to a third party. It is very obviously a pre-written answer. Maya claims that the one she sent the message to was user Guleny. * From Maya's email: Following that Maya sends 3 messages to explain to MDST the circumstances, and to try to show that in fact, she was the one offended. * From Maya's email: Maya receives another MDST message, with the same content but this time personalized. The email mentions that Zeemax had sent his contact details to other people than her. :The latter probably refers to Zeemax's posting of his details on the thread. * From Maya's email: She keeps communicating about Zeemax to the MDST. * Zeemax siaetJM: Zeemax gets a warning from MDST (date undetermined) advising him "to refrain from either addressing or referring to Maya in any post" * From Maya's email: 25 jan. Maya receives a mail from MDST saying that future reference to her person in Zeemax's post will be considered harassment. They suggest her to let them know if that happens. They also say that if she refers to him, whether in response to his posts or not, they will not help her. In that message, there is no mention that the penalty for referring to Maya is deletion of profile. :One month after the facts? * Zeemax siaetJM: Zeemax respects the advice all through the year. Mainly by falling out of sight. * From the thread: October 17th, 2009 - 8:56 am, Zeemax posts [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=528&post=3949594#post4088572 this], where he refers to Maya. He mentions a medieval death penalty in relation to her temporary ban from the group. * From Maya's emails: Soon after that, Maya sends the MDST a message containing only a link, not to the post mentioning her, but to [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=528&post=3949594#post4105065 this post], that is a comment on the post mentioning her by another user. * FMe: Maya receives a reply from MDST full of happy talk about how it is difficult to get along with each other but that we must all try our best, blah blah blah... This emails does not mention the deletion of Zeemax. * Zeemax siaetJM: "the day after posting the reference to Maya" Zeemax' profile is deleted from CS.
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