This is an outlandish suggestion probably but let's see how we can make it practical.

In Victoria there's this CS'er called Aaron Schultz. He has a reputation for organizing big number pub crawls attracting a hundred CS'ers and forcing venues to open half an hour earlier then normal. He makes up a google map with a list of off the beat pubs and bars and people move between them. Not everything goes to plan but what ever does?

Let's see if we can beat them - not perhaps by sheer numbers and maybe not even by per capita numbers but by having a greater idea then them. It's all in good fun.

We'd need enough cars/buses to move people 1 hour per location between the 3 locations.

It's fun to people watch when out at the state library of qld surfing the net from the free wifi don't you think?

If we make it a Christmas type event it will have to be done soon

It’s important to express interest early and this provides maximum bargaining power with the bar provider's. If they know that they’re certain to get a certain amount of income at a future date then they will be more willing to discount or provide additional services. It’s also my preferred way of interacting – relaxed win win propositions. Yes we can as a group wait till last minute and demand a cheaper price but that’s not likely to mean a good will long term relationship with the provider.

A number of other clubs I'm involved with have gotten half price drinks. To merge it with the Couchsurfing ethos perhaps we could ask for custom world music from around the world? Or even allow us as an online group to have photos of various exotic locations there.

Perhaps get projector's in? Laptops with USB sticks?

==Dates==
Tue 22nd - [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=1327&post=4575136 Alibi Room event] conflicts (or merge with it?) time is from 6 to 8pm that CS'ers will be here

Wed 23rd - VOTE: Cassie

Thu 24th - Possibly out as conflicts with XMAS dinner -- Cassie's's suggestion.

Fri 25th - OUT Christmas

Sat 26th - Boxing Day (is any bars open?)

Sun 27th -

Mon 28th -

Tue 29th -

Wed 30th -

Thu 31st -

Fri 1st -

Sat 2nd - VOTE: Cassie

Sun 3rd -

==PROS==

==CONS==

==resources==
* Cars
** Problems with possibly vomiting - limit drinks in the early part of the night until later. Scout's honor?
* Buses
** Bit of a hassle as we need pre-confirmation from people and they tend to pull out. Any ideas on how to enforce. At a dance school there is even ratio's at the start but girls tend to flake out while boys are more reliable. Even though thye have paid it people still don't come. The solution by the dance provider was to do group SMS of other people later. A CRM application might be needed as well to get regular people involved. This would also be helpful for references.

==Possible pubs to visit==
===[[Brisbane]]===
<googlemap version="0.9" lat="-27.465937" lon="153.029423" type="map" zoom="13" width="400" height="300">
42.664316, -73.290356
</googlemap>
* Bar Soma, Valley
* Lychee Lounge, West End
* X and Y, Valley
* Laroush, Valley
* The Step Inn, Valley
====Avoid====

===Gold Coast===
* ''Don't know of any pubs, suggestions Gold coast people?''

====Avoid====
* Bedroom
* Cocktails & Dreams,
* Shooters

As told to me by a moderator of one of the region's CS forums.

===Sunshine Coast===
* ''Don't know of any pubs, suggestions, Sunshine Coast people?''
====Avoid====

[[Category:Australia]]

BNE 3regions oneNight pubcrawl

2009-12-20T12:32:36Z

118.208.108.138: /* Dates */

This is an outlandish suggestion probably but let's see how we can make it practical.

In Victoria there's this CS'er called Aaron Schultz. He has a reputation for organizing big number pub crawls attracting a hundred CS'ers and forcing venues to open half an hour earlier then normal. He makes up a google map with a list of off the beat pubs and bars and people move between them. Not everything goes to plan but what ever does?

Let's see if we can beat them - not perhaps by sheer numbers and maybe not even by per capita numbers but by having a greater idea then them. It's all in good fun.

We'd need enough cars/buses to move people 1 hour per location between the 3 locations.

It's fun to people watch when out at the state library of qld surfing the net from the free wifi don't you think?

If we make it a Christmas type event it will have to be done soon

It’s important to express interest early and this provides maximum bargaining power with the bar provider's. If they know that they’re certain to get a certain amount of income at a future date then they will be more willing to discount or provide additional services. It’s also my preferred way of interacting – relaxed win win propositions. Yes we can as a group wait till last minute and demand a cheaper price but that’s not likely to mean a good will long term relationship with the provider.

A number of other clubs I'm involved with have gotten half price drinks. To merge it with the Couchsurfing ethos perhaps we could ask for custom world music from around the world? Or even allow us as an online group to have photos of various exotic locations there.

Perhaps get projector's in? Laptops with USB sticks?

==Dates==
Tue 22nd - [http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=1327&post=4575136 Alibi Room event] conflicts (or merge with it?) time is from 6 to 8pm that CS'ers will be here

Wed 23rd -

Thu 24th -

Fri 25th - OUT Christmas

Sat 26th - Boxing Day (is any bars open?)

Sun 27th -

Mon 28th -

Tue 29th -

Wed 30th -

Thu 31st -

Fri 1st -

Sat 2nd -

Sun 3rd -

==PROS==

==CONS==

==resources==
* Cars
** Problems with possibly vomiting - limit drinks in the early part of the night until later. Scout's honor?
* Buses
** Bit of a hassle as we need pre-confirmation from people and they tend to pull out. Any ideas on how to enforce. At a dance school there is even ratio's at the start but girls tend to flake out while boys are more reliable. Even though thye have paid it people still don't come. The solution by the dance provider was to do group SMS of other people later. A CRM application might be needed as well to get regular people involved. This would also be helpful for references.

==Possible pubs to visit==
===[[Brisbane]]===
<googlemap version="0.9" lat="-27.465937" lon="153.029423" type="map" zoom="13" width="400" height="300">
42.664316, -73.290356
</googlemap>
* Bar Soma, Valley
* Lychee Lounge, West End
* X and Y, Valley
* Laroush, Valley
* The Step Inn, Valley
====Avoid====

===Gold Coast===
* ''Don't know of any pubs, suggestions Gold coast people?''

====Avoid====
* Bedroom
* Cocktails & Dreams,
* Shooters

As told to me by a moderator of one of the region's CS forums.

===Sunshine Coast===
* ''Don't know of any pubs, suggestions, Sunshine Coast people?''
====Avoid====

[[Category:Australia]]

2009-12-19T11:21:05Z

118.208.108.138: Using google find the new link.

:''This is meant to give an overview to editing Wikis, and more specifically CouchWiki. Please do add comments, questions, useful links (internal or external), whatever comes up.''

'''CS Wiki for Dummies''' is not just an introduction to the [[CouchSurfing Wiki]]. It's an introduction to wikis.
All the skills you acquire contributing to this wiki will be useful on other wikis, like Wikipedia.

When reading a Wikipedia article, you probably never realized that the '''edit''' is there for ''you''! Wikipedia has millions in articles in over 200 languages because people like you started clicking edit. And people like you want to do the right thing. So over 99% (wild guess) of edits are positive contributions.

As a start, we want you to click [http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_use_the_CouchSurfing_Wiki&action=edit edit] now and ask a question. 

==Why was this wiki set up?==
The wiki was set up by [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small>, with no clear reasons, but enough of them to get started. Some ideas were the [[CouchSurfing Guide]], and a place to store and work on documents important for CouchSurfing, as an alternative to sending Word documents around from one person to another. And to have a very instant, [[adhocracy|adhoc]] way of doing things.

But [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small> is also known to be a Wikimaniac, and for [http://bm.wikipedia.org setting] [http://ff.wikipedia.org up] (or [[:hitch:|adopting]]) many different wikis, even for [http://li.wikipedia.org no particular reason].

===Why can't you just keep posting in the groups?===
You can use the Groups! And you should use the Groups! For discussing almost anything in CS, the Groups are the right tool. You don't have to edit any wiki page, at all. And well, if you ''do'' want to edit, you don't have to be a geek. Which was shown at the [[New Zealand Collective]] the end of 2006, early 2007.

The groups will never be closed down. Though they will probably change over time. In fact, there are a lot of ideas to improve the Group system. There are some ideas about this. E.g. check [[Group names]]. And maybe we find a great way to integrate Wiki with Groups and vice versa.

===I find the Wiki really confusing and unorganized===
<strike>The design is being changed radically</strike>, and hopefully people will organize the content on the Wiki in different ways. One way to get a better of idea of what's on this wiki is to use categories, through which you can [[:Category:Browse|browse]] . Most pages belong to at least one category, and this is shown at the bottom of a page. Click on a category you're interested in, e.g. [[:Category:New Zealand|New Zealand]], or [[:Category:CS Magazine|CS Magazine]] to get an idea of the possibilities. You can use the '''search''' box in the left pane if you exactly know what you're looking for.

By the end of 2006 [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small> was working on a much clearer design.

===How exactly does this wiki help with the CouchSurfing [[Mission]]?===
:"CouchSurfing seeks to internationally network people and places, create educational exchanges, raise collective consciousness, spread tolerance and facilitate cultural understanding."

The Wiki allows all CouchSurfers to work together on the creation of highly hyperlinked documents. For example, all CouchSurfers can help creating a [[CS Magazine]] and many other cool things that can help spreading the CS message. The way people cooperate on wikis is often a great example of tolerance and cultural understanding.

:"As a community we strive to do our individual and collective parts to create world a better place, and we believe that the surfing of couches is a mean to accomplish this goal."

Wikis are all about cooperation. Since the focus is on the creation of documents there is often less room for Ego.

:"CouchSurfing is not about the furniture, not just about finding free accommodations around the world; it's about making connections worldwide. We make the world a better place by opening our homes, our hearts, and our lives. We open our minds and welcome the knowledge that cultural exchange makes available. We create deep and meaningful connections that cross oceans, continents and cultures. CouchSurfing wants to change not only the way we travel, but how we relate to the world!"

The [[CouchSurfing Guide]] (e.g. the article about [[Syria]]) is an example of how people are able to connect in different ways.

===I want to get started. What can I do?===
* Use the search box to find your locations or topics of interest. Find answers to your questions there.
* If you find a place (how about your home town?) or something else that you have information about, share it here! Enjoy! Good luck! Thank you!
* You can easily [[How to create a new wiki page|start a new article]], also with little information, once you link it to other pages, other people will help improve it.

===I have a Word document I want to put on this Wiki===
You can [[Special:Upload|upload]] documents to the wiki, but you can also check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:WordToWiki this way to convert Word documents into the wiki format]

===I have an HTML page I want to put on this wiki===
Check http://labs.seapine.com/htmltowiki.cgi

==See also==

===Help on this Wiki===
* [[How to create a new wiki page]]
* [[Role of this wiki]]
* How to [[Links|link back to CouchSurfing]] web pages
* You can find help in the [[csgroup:3727|CS Group about the Wiki]]
* You can contact [http://couchsurfing.com/people/guaka guaka] or [http://couchsurfing.com/people/metal.lunchbox metal.lunchbox] with any questions regarding the wiki - they don't have ''bureaucrat'' or even ''sysop'' rights and it's hard for them to help you with any technical problems, so you might as well directly go to the group.

===Some useful info from Wikipedia===
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette Etiquette]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page How to edit a page]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style Manual of Style]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial Wikipedia:Tutorial]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents Help:Contents]

===Next===
* Go play in the [[project:Sandbox|Sandbox]]!
* Put some notes on your user page.
* Edit anything you want to improve, and start writing new pages if you feel like it.

[[Category:Project]]
[[Category:Help]]

{{cswiki-cc}}

BNE 3regions oneNight pubcrawl

2009-12-18T02:01:59Z

118.208.108.138: /* Sunshine Coast */

BNE 3regions oneNight pubcrawl

2009-12-18T02:01:40Z

118.208.108.138: /* Brisbane */

BNE 3regions oneNight pubcrawl

2009-12-17T06:22:05Z

118.208.108.138: /* Gold Coast */

CS BNE Job posting guidelines

2009-12-17T06:07:41Z

118.208.108.138: /* Template Format */

Couchsurfing is a non-commercial group forum however it does allow some commercial posts as long as it is relevant to the needs of travellers. How so?

* point 1
* point 2
* point 3

==Pros==
* Short term work allows Couchsurfer's to stay longer and see more. Cultural understanding is improved when CS'ers do work here as they can see what day to day life is like.

==Cons==
* Too much posts drowning out organizing of social meets and parties.

==Template Format==

* Who
* When & How long
* Where
* How much (or range)

Example:

CS BNE Job posting guidelines

2009-12-17T06:07:28Z

118.208.108.138:

2009-12-17T04:49:47Z

118.208.108.138: /* Cons */

CS BNE Job posting guidelines

2009-12-17T04:49:23Z

118.208.108.138: /* Pros */

AUS CS Friendly Insurance Providers

2009-12-16T21:34:24Z

118.208.108.138:

Sorry, online miscommunication, I was in a hurry and missed out on the appropriate emoticon: ;) or :P to say I was joking/not serious about CS being a cult. I however wasn’t joking about neo-tribalism which is both positive and negative like most things in life – a balanced (which yes includes contradictory information) view is necessary

<B>The linked page is satire</B>. Further details are below if interested.

While I’ve now paid my insurance so personally it matters not to me on the bigger scale it does to CouchSurfing as a whole. How so? Some more points:

- you’ve had 100 couchsurfer’s over the last year who have been all vouched at least 5 times and have 10s of positive references. A burglar comes in and steals something. Insurance company denies claim when they found out you’re a couchsurfer because you let stranger’s in the house.

<b>The above is a very hasty scenario which probably isn’t fully valid and over-cautious designed to spark further discussions</b>. While it is sometimes true that bridges are best cross when you come to it perhaps like hash house harrier’s, a social running group, where trails are laid using talcum powder and there was an incident where the authorities thought it was terrorism. Perhaps an appropriate document could be made up for insurance companies to ensure they are fully informed that it’s not really risky if used properly.

Or like my original question which ones are already couchsurfer friendly?

The other point is that there are over 40,000 couchsurfers in Australia. Say 10% are active and local. That’s 4000 people. Now say 30% read this thread – that’s 1200 people. Now if 1200 times 500 average insurance that’s 600,000 which I suppose is relatively small in insurance stakes but still worth influencing. So write your opinion.

I am aware of the parallels between this and <a href="http://queenslandclimbing.yuku.com/topic/4391">Managing risks in rock climbing> - that is reduce the major risks first and then the minor risks last.

BNE 3regions oneNight pubcrawl

2009-12-16T10:39:14Z

118.208.108.138: /* Possible pubs to visit */

Help:Contents

2009-12-16T10:36:06Z

118.208.108.138: /* I have a Word document I want to put on this Wiki */

:''This is meant to give an overview to editing Wikis, and more specifically CouchWiki. Please do add comments, questions, useful links (internal or external), whatever comes up.''

'''CS Wiki for Dummies''' is not just an introduction to the [[CouchSurfing Wiki]]. It's an introduction to wikis.
All the skills you acquire contributing to this wiki will be useful on other wikis, like Wikipedia.

When reading a Wikipedia article, you probably never realized that the '''edit''' is there for ''you''! Wikipedia has millions in articles in over 200 languages because people like you started clicking edit. And people like you want to do the right thing. So over 99% (wild guess) of edits are positive contributions.

As a start, we want you to click [http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_use_the_CouchSurfing_Wiki&action=edit edit] now and ask a question. 

==Why was this wiki set up?==
The wiki was set up by [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small>, with no clear reasons, but enough of them to get started. Some ideas were the [[CouchSurfing Guide]], and a place to store and work on documents important for CouchSurfing, as an alternative to sending Word documents around from one person to another. And to have a very instant, [[adhocracy|adhoc]] way of doing things.

But [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small> is also known to be a Wikimaniac, and for [http://bm.wikipedia.org setting] [http://ff.wikipedia.org up] (or [[:hitch:|adopting]]) many different wikis, even for [http://li.wikipedia.org no particular reason].

===Why can't you just keep posting in the groups?===
You can use the Groups! And you should use the Groups! For discussing almost anything in CS, the Groups are the right tool. You don't have to edit any wiki page, at all. And well, if you ''do'' want to edit, you don't have to be a geek. Which was shown at the [[New Zealand Collective]] the end of 2006, early 2007.

The groups will never be closed down. Though they will probably change over time. In fact, there are a lot of ideas to improve the Group system. There are some ideas about this. E.g. check [[Group names]]. And maybe we find a great way to integrate Wiki with Groups and vice versa.

===I find the Wiki really confusing and unorganized===
<strike>The design is being changed radically</strike>, and hopefully people will organize the content on the Wiki in different ways. One way to get a better of idea of what's on this wiki is to use categories, through which you can [[:Category:Browse|browse]] . Most pages belong to at least one category, and this is shown at the bottom of a page. Click on a category you're interested in, e.g. [[:Category:New Zealand|New Zealand]], or [[:Category:CS Magazine|CS Magazine]] to get an idea of the possibilities. You can use the '''search''' box in the left pane if you exactly know what you're looking for.

By the end of 2006 [[User:Guaka|Guaka]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Guaka|Talk]]</sup><sup>[[:couchsurfing:Guaka|CS]]</sup></small> was working on a much clearer design.

===How exactly does this wiki help with the CouchSurfing [[Mission]]?===
:"CouchSurfing seeks to internationally network people and places, create educational exchanges, raise collective consciousness, spread tolerance and facilitate cultural understanding."

The Wiki allows all CouchSurfers to work together on the creation of highly hyperlinked documents. For example, all CouchSurfers can help creating a [[CS Magazine]] and many other cool things that can help spreading the CS message. The way people cooperate on wikis is often a great example of tolerance and cultural understanding.

:"As a community we strive to do our individual and collective parts to create world a better place, and we believe that the surfing of couches is a mean to accomplish this goal."

Wikis are all about cooperation. Since the focus is on the creation of documents there is often less room for Ego.

:"CouchSurfing is not about the furniture, not just about finding free accommodations around the world; it's about making connections worldwide. We make the world a better place by opening our homes, our hearts, and our lives. We open our minds and welcome the knowledge that cultural exchange makes available. We create deep and meaningful connections that cross oceans, continents and cultures. CouchSurfing wants to change not only the way we travel, but how we relate to the world!"

The [[CouchSurfing Guide]] (e.g. the article about [[Syria]]) is an example of how people are able to connect in different ways.

===I want to get started. What can I do?===
* Use the search box to find your locations or topics of interest. Find answers to your questions there.
* If you find a place (how about your home town?) or something else that you have information about, share it here! Enjoy! Good luck! Thank you!
* You can easily [[How to create a new wiki page|start a new article]], also with little information, once you link it to other pages, other people will help improve it.

===I have a Word document I want to put on this Wiki===
You can [[Special:Upload|upload]] documents to the wiki, but you can also check out <strike>[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents:Word_to_wiki this way to convert Word documents into the wiki format]</strike> No longer available.

===I have an HTML page I want to put on this wiki===
Check http://labs.seapine.com/htmltowiki.cgi

==See also==

===Help on this Wiki===
* [[How to create a new wiki page]]
* [[Role of this wiki]]
* How to [[Links|link back to CouchSurfing]] web pages
* You can find help in the [[csgroup:3727|CS Group about the Wiki]]
* You can contact [http://couchsurfing.com/people/guaka guaka] or [http://couchsurfing.com/people/metal.lunchbox metal.lunchbox] with any questions regarding the wiki - they don't have ''bureaucrat'' or even ''sysop'' rights and it's hard for them to help you with any technical problems, so you might as well directly go to the group.

===Some useful info from Wikipedia===
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette Etiquette]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page How to edit a page]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style Manual of Style]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial Wikipedia:Tutorial]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents Help:Contents]

===Next===
* Go play in the [[project:Sandbox|Sandbox]]!
* Put some notes on your user page.
* Edit anything you want to improve, and start writing new pages if you feel like it.

[[Category:Project]]
[[Category:Help]]

{{cswiki-cc}}